The German still uses his "lucky" targets, but no longer values very highly the records made upon them, while the American has discarded his ten pound, three pound pull gun for the Schuetzen rifle, recognizing the utility of the German appliances, palm-rests, set triggers, Schuetzen butt plates, cheek pieces, and has gone him one better by All shooting with these rifles is done standing using a palm rest and butt stock prongs to help the shooter balance the rifle so the weight aids in stability. It is generally believed that the use of the bow and arrow date back to approximetely 50,000 B.C. Their work included rifles and . Like many Schuetzen rifles of the period, it sports a set of double set triggers. 30" Octagon Barrel. While competitors typically use Ballard, Sharps, Remington rolling-block, or Winchester high- or low-wall rifles or modern-made replicas of these designs modern rifles such as the Ruger No. Based on the cartridge dimensions of the cast, it is a 9.5X47R. Engraved, German, Nitro Proof, 27.5 Barrels. a) Shotguns and smooth-bored guns, including shot pistols, chambered for standard shot gun cartridges, .22 inch, .23 inch, 6mm and 9mm rim-fire cartridges;). Estimated Price: $800 - $1,200. 2023 Recoil Magazine Accessories: Sight Barrel Length: 32 - 1/2" Caliber/Bore: 8.15x54R FFL Status: Curio & Relic Manufacturer: Otto Zeitlinger Model: Schuetzen Serial . A new schuetzen costs about the same with the Stevens 44-1/2 action made by CPA being the frontrunner both in 1900 and today. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Sign Up today for our FREE Newsletter and get the latest articles and news delivered right to your inbox. As gun-making technology in America progressed, a gunmaker named George Schalk made a muzzle-loading target rifle in 1885 that was as accurate as it was revolutionary. Please call or email us to place an order - we normally do not have Schuetzen rifles in stock. good up to 100yds match * 32-40 CPA with Fecker 12X scope - up to 200yd or meter match * 38-55 HiWall - good up to 300 yds Lot 1066: German Schuetzen Rifle 22Custom Bohlig & Esch Marked Falling Block Schuezten Rifle Auction Date: February 20, 2015. GERMAN NMN SHUTZEN FALLING BLOCK SINGLE SHOT 9.3X48R GI#: 102141153 ID # 8341 Make GERMAN NMN Model SCHUTZEN FALLING BLOCK Configuration Single Shot Gauge / Caliber 9.3X48R Price $2,500. by M. M. Wright Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:41 am, Post These shooting events with the bow were carried into use with both the crossbow and firearms and in some regions are still being practiced today. Some of the records set with them were unbeaten for nearly a century. condition except checkered PG stock was shortened then length, #384A AYDT ENGRAVED GERMAN SCHUETZEN RIFLE, 8:15 X 46, 32" fluted oct. matted bbl., inlayed in silver on top of receiver "H. Speeman Neuss", detachable DST assembly, sling swivels, Schu, #366A SIMON HEIM ENGRAVED GERMAN SCHUETZEN RIFLE, 8:15 X 46, rare Gouda Percha engraved palm rest attached to forward part of lever, never saw this before, left side of receiver engraved with a man si, #1101A UNKNOWN PERCUSSION DRILLING, 16X16X32, 32 bbls., possibly made by Nathaniel Choate, very unusual side by side 16 ga. bbl. It can cause extreme stress on the gun if fired with 2-3/4" shells in a 2-9/16" chamber. The cards they are printed on generally measure 5 1/2 inches square (14 mm). "Schuetzen" was to the firearms of that era what benchrest is to ours. 35851W, 25.5"" round barrel, chambered in .22, overall good condition with a bright and shiny bore. These parts are numbered, and contestents endeavor to shoot them off. File cut ramped front sight, removable trigger group falling block action, double set triggers with extended trigger guard tang, c, #733A HAENEL ORIGINAL AYDT TAKEDOWN SCHUETZEN RIFLE, 8:15 X 46, original Schuetzen tang sight adjustable for windage & elevation, pinhead ramp front sight with ears, sling swivels, DST, Schuetzen, Simson & Co. Karabiner Rifle .22 lr caliber 23 1/2" barrel Takedown screw Butter knife bolt lever is serial number matching Single shot Period correct European braided leather s. FR Langenhan Akan Single shot Rifle,22 LR,23-1\2" Barrel,Solid Stock, Excellent Bore, No Safety, No Ejection system. The serial on the bolt does not match. Matches are held the 2nd Tuesday of each month, from May through September, from 3pm to close, on the west-half of the 100 yard range. Load the ammunition into the magazine, if applicable, or directly into the chamber of the weapon. said to an enemy who asked him to surrender you may lick my ass meaning Im not at all interested in your opinion, proposal or order, I dont get nevious about some mistake. When Californians need to sell their firearms, they often find Cabelas may be the only store that will buy them. They are the first firearms in the industry to have a laser built into the gun, you cannot buy them without it. A finely designed double set trigger assembly - later determined that the trigger pull is less than 2 ounces Left receiver engraving - the German Beer Lady, known as Schuetzen Lisle Right receiver - the mythical boy known as Pan A beautiful rifle, including a bright mint bore but. To activate, press the grey button. I honestly believe if one were to breathe to heavy on this trigger that it would fall. The overall length is approx. It is possibly chambered in 9.3x47R but a chamber cast would be needed to confirm. by Old No7 Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:30 pm, Post There's a small gathering of schuetzen shooters here that might get a real bang out of your rifle.. Home >> Browse All >> Search Results >> Login To Save This Search Limit to State: Local Listing Results Show All schuetzen For Sale Sorry, no results were found. The cylinder release has been completely re-designed. 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Especially since there are no other marks on the rifle. They're basically real fancy guns for real wealthy people. & D. Best quality side plate 9.3 x 74 R. High power big game cal. Have you shot yours yet, what were the results, I'd love to see the targets, Have you shot yours yet, what were the results, I'd love to see the targets. Matches . by 6pt-sika Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:59 pm, Post This tradition continues today although the muzzle loaders and black powder have given sway to the "Luftgewehre and Luftpistolen.". If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough-. by Pitchy Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:55 pm, Post German made single shot target rifle with 25.5"" barrel. 2010, TIER ONE MEDIA, LLC. As the bore/land diameter is given with the old gauge number 527 = 5.25 5.50 mm, the rifle was proofed 1893 1911. 28" Octagon Barrel. SN #4421. I try to stop in once a week to see what new gems they have acquired and on a recent trip, I saw an old Schuetzen rifle. Right-hand schutzen backend, rebarreled to US configuration 219 Zipper. Hunting Marksmanship never took on the social and political importance that the Schtzen movement did but was important and recognized by the organized hunting Associations. Original sights consist of a very delicate blade front sight, a fancy rear barrel sight and a unique tang sight. by Pete44ru Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:53 pm, Post Sighting In with Shooting USA - Schuetzen Rifles. Original system-aydt action, remain, Erma E36 Pre-War W.K. Engraved by J. Kellerthaler. Post Single shot full stock A. From the markings the 7,7 may mean it was originally in 7.7 mm (about .311 caliber). Manufacturer: German. Another bird target was the Eagle target which was much larger than the Popenjay target. He is also editor of the Single Shot Rifle Journal, a magazine devoted to the Schuetzen disciplineand the history. What aabout the Jamison C sharps 44-90 brass? Seems enough suggestions to me that I'd go .32-40. With its .30-caliber bullet, the naming convention of the time called it the .30-06. I'm new to the forum and new to Schuetzen. While competitors typically use Ballard, Sharps, Remington rolling-block, or Winchester high- or low-wall rifles or modern-made replicas of these designs modern rifles such as the Ruger No. Practice with the crossbow was encouraged by civil leaders and nobility because they often relied on their citizenry to defend their relm and shooting grounds were set aside where practice took place. The integrated laser sight is under the barrel. Bear in mind that this was the heyday of rifle competition and the shooters of the day were as well known as any modern athlete. over rifle bbl., rifle bbl. LOP is approx 14 1/8". I have a question about a German "Schuetzen rifle" - it says "Victor Trlzsch in Nrnberg" on the barrel. Sharps-Borchardt Schuetzen rifle - note the heavy half-round barrel, buttstock prongs, cheekpiece, vernier tang sight, and double set triggers. A very scarce and highly collectible German Zimmer Schuetzen Parlor Gun Rifle made by K. Hermann of Germany, late 19th century. German Schuetzen Style Rifle - 8.15x46 Norm 1.2K Views Last Post 28 August 2021 Standard Member Norman1950 posted this 19 October 2020 New Member here from Idaho. More photos of the action may give a hint to the maker. Its the first ambidextrous Revolver. Elongated prongs on the rifles butt plate work hand in hand with the unique palm rest to help competitors balance the rifle. By the middle ages this became the major event in shooting competitions all across Europe but particularly in the Geman speaking countries. . The single parts are of 1 inch pine; one 1/2 inch dowel holds them in the joint of the 3 inch body shield, which must be hit to drop. The reference for these ballistics has been mostly ADI and some Wikipedia for the more obscure big game calibers. It's got beautiful. The only position possible with the specialized Schuetzen design. With all the suggestions for .32-40, why the resistance to that caliber? trigger guard &a, JOH. Bore is excellent. HI WALL SCHUETZEN RIFLE GI#: 102074655 #1017A WIN. Yours Sincerely Tim Hudd, Your email address will not be published. The load info given with the old German proofmarks is not the proof load, but the service load the gun is proofed for to use. This rifle has double set triggers. There is no other firearm that looks or shoots quite like a Schuetzen. An ethical hunter endeavors to be a good marksman and by that means he is able to make a clean kill on the game he is after. LOP 13 1/2". Hopefully Terry Harper will chime in with his opioion and success as being a new shooter it being his choice as he has and continues to do extremly well with his from day one. Generally someone is available to answer your call M-F from 9am to 5pm, Central Time. The engraving and metalwork on this piece is exquisite and that may be the only justification for someone to buy this rifle. With its longevity and avid following, the Schuetzen now has a place asone of Historys Guns. 47.75"". The first time I ever heard of Schuetzen rifles it was an old article in THE AMERICAN RIFLEMAN where they were covering the matches put on by the Coors Company. "SN: 3162. See "Alte Scheibenwaffen" by Tom Rowe, Vol 2 . In the USA, the UK, Austria and Scandinavia, target shooting was very active, but based on the .22 rim fire cartridge. Very interesting, Id love to make contact with the guy who wrote the Schuetzen article as Ive a few questions Id like to ask him. horn pistol grip cap. Then the case filled with powder and topped with a wad is loaded into the chamber behind it. S/N 2078X, 1970 fortuna drilling very nice condition. There is a German Rifle Society and are Schuetzen rifle groups out there as well. Made double rifles as well for high ranking customers. by Old No7 Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:53 pm, Post by Pisgah Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:49 pm, Post blue, good bor .Click for more info Seller: Jim Goergen Area Code: 507 $1200 reduced to $1100 WIN. It is located a few miles north of Frederick MD. Generally, Douglas XX or Shilen barrels are used, but Bartlein, Ron Smith and others are available at extra charge. Calibers that I'm considering 32 Miller short, 32-20 CPA, and 32-40. The bullets are usually seated with the base of the bullet at the case mouth as this method gives superior accuracy. Karabiner 22 Single Shot Rifle. Schuetzen rifles come with either standard scope bases or the Weaver style. Weight is best measured in ounces. This store is located outside of Reno, Nevada, less than 10 miles from the California border. Shooting as a sport was so popular in Germany that practically every village of any size had a shooting club or "Schuetzen Verbande." It's a beautiful German-made. Chamber Cast - needed to determine exactly what 375 caliber. SOLD FOR: $1,950 LSB#: 150710HS08 Make: German Model: Schuetzen Target Rifle Serial Number: 182 Year of Manufacture: 1891-1912 (From Crown over V proof) Caliber: 8.15x46R (The groove diameter is about 0.314" as close as we could measure.) Axel mentions Maretsch in the Nimrod thread - is that a German book ? by Rusty Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:37 pm, Post 6) 14 2 power Unertl 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 or lyman super targetspot. The Eagle Target is fastened to the top of a pole 40 feet from the ground. As this is your first Schuetzen get a 32-40 there is a boatload of good information on shooting a 32-40. As a result, this particular Cabelas buys more used firearms than every other Cabelas location combined. All rights reserved. At this time we do not process firearm sales through this web site. Some sources claim that it was once used to describe archers or more specifically crossbowmen. This rimmed oddball caliber proved popular as it was strictly a sporting round and allowed the Germans to produce these rifles, ammunition and components when they were sanctioned against producing military arms after World War I. One of the victims of this hate was the sport of "Schuetzen." HAENEL ORIGINAL AYDT TAKEDOWN SCHUETZEN RIFLE, Simson & Co. Karabiner .22 Caliber Single Shot Rifle S/N 79481XX, Fredrich Langenhan Single Shot .22 LR **Made in mid 1920** Like new, Erma E36 Pre-War W.K. The rifle is an "unknown" 8mm (for now, but it's most likely an 8.15X46R) with a 30" tapered octagon barrel, no maker's marks on the receiver or barrel anywhere, a heavy checkered Schuetzen buttstock with large cheek rest, Schuetzen buttplate & lever, double-set triggers, original Schuetzen tang sight (with large 2.125" disc), pinhead . The Stutzen Rifles- Berg, Bolt, Feuer, Ischler and Pirsch Vogelbchsen About the Makers 1873 Handbook of Industry, Vol. This is a non-maker marked rifle that has 85-90% of the original blue remaining on the barrel with some mild fading to plum-brown on . Rifle of exquisite art and workmanship. The 12 month average price is $1,032.73 used. Classic Single Shot Rifles: 1874 Sharps, 1873 Trapdoor Springfield, 1885 High Wall Arrowhead 1976 16K views 10 months ago Peter Hofer present at The World Gunmakers Virtual Event 2020 GunsOnPegs. A forum community dedicated to the great outdoors and hunting enthusiasts. This organization is composed of German and American Riflemen. The first touch will turn the laser on, the second push changes to a pulsing laser. This one is a nice example that shows some use, but well cared for and is a good, solid rifle&he, This is a German made Guild Gun chambered in .22 Hornet. I would not over look the 33-47 it is extremly user friendly and extremly accurate. If it is an autoloading rifle, just load the ammunition according to the instructions provided. Darryl, I had a chance to buy a very similar rifle from an Austrian maker some years ago -- and waited too long and missed it. John is a Schuetzen enthusiast and avid competitor. If these charge weights had been used with fixed ammunition, the results probably would have been awful. Are you sure the chambers are 2-3/4". The Schuetzen musket caps are very hot, and give you consistent shot groupings. Californias confusing gun laws and firearm sales practices seem to make it difficult for most people to sell their old firearms in that state at times. Founded in 1964, Oakdale Gun Club is a member-owned and operated non-profit corporation dedicated to promoting the shooting sports, improving public safety, and providing our members and the surrounding community with a safe, supervised, and well-maintained place to practice the shooting sports. Highly engraved with detailed scroll and game scenes. Records date it back more than 800 years, beginning with clubs to promote proficiency with bows and crossbows. by KWK Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:03 pm, Post I want the rifle to just enjoy shooting. CMG West, LLC Called and Mrs Davidson said - 'We have 2 sets in stock." 28" Octagon Barrel. My now deceased shooting buddy had a Martini Schuetzen very similar to yours and I had one on the big falling block style action . looks better in person. The rifles accepted technical changes - like brass cartridges - but the sport did not. Franz Langenhan Kleinkaliberbuchse Single Shot Rifle .22LR VERY NICE!!! The rifle looks like one of the "Ideal" actions that Axel has written extensively about. Overall, this single shot rifle is in very good condition and it has a very good to excellent bore. A SCHUETZEN RIFLE rifle is currently worth an average price of $1,032.73 used . A most pleasant discovery was how consistent these load combinations are. Matches are open to both OGC members and members of the public. Hating "the Hun" and all things German was our patriotic duty (politically correct). The word "Schuetzen" is German and in this application refers to a breech-loading, singleshot rifle using a cartridge case to contain the primer and powder charge with cast or swaged lead bullets. Serial #417130. Unusual calibers, 25" bbls under is chambered for Sauer rimmed ctg mfg by RWS, 20 pieces of brass and n, GERMAN DRILLING 16GA - 9.3X72R BACK ACTION HAMMER GUN, 95% KRUPP STEEL BARRELS, NICE BORES WITH A LITTLE PITTING TOWARD THE BACK, SILVER RECEIVER WITH SOME LIGHT SCROLL , GOOD SOLID WOOD, CHEC, "German Guild Schutzen 7.6mm caliber rifle. Springer Single shot on a Heeren type block action, high power 7 x 64, 24 1/4 Bohler Antnit steel 1/2 RD. From. The round paper or wooden target was popular and shooting at moving targets of game animals also took place. Make sure each round is fully in contact with the next round and is not rattling around. 24", overall 42 1/4". I've only held a couple of schuetzen rifles and I came away with this: The exaggerated shapes schuetzen stocks are very personal Try some out before you buy. It has an aluminum alloy frame with a stainless steel barrel liner and titanium cylinder. The only other information I got from the seller was that the rifle was given to him by a friend whose father supposedly took this (and others) from from a hunting lodge owned by Erwin Rommel, but there is no supporting evidence of that. Waffenstadt Guhl 1934/35 Mauser 22lr trainer, 26" barrel, sporterized in an unfortunate manner but great for a little shooter or to cannibalize f. ID # 8341 Make GERMAN NMN Model SCHUTZEN FALLING BLOCK Configuration Single Shot Gauge / Caliber 9.3X48R Price $2,500. The turtle mark on the lever looks familiar to me and I'm sure Axel will recognize it and who it represents. These musket caps are packed in traditional 100-count tins and can be ordered in 500, 1000 or 5000 count. Will, Zwickau," but whether he was the maker or just the retailer is impossible to say. by Chuck 100 yd Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:31 pm, Post Your email address will not be published. Because of its superior accuracy, this type of rifle quickly became the dominant force in the "Schuetzen" competitions that had been transplanted to America along with the German people. Sights are the traditional peep rear and open or globe front sight. In some cases, the competitors go to great lengths in their quest for accuracy, such as pushing the lead bullet into the lands and grooves, for precise engagement. The more I read about the 32-20 CPA it seems to be a great caliber or terrible. Quite a few came home in duffel bags after WW2. Full rib with express sight & claw mounts. SN 490. The 9.362mm (also known as 9.362mm Mauser) is a rimless, bottlenecked rifle cartridge designed in 1905 by German gunmaker Otto Bock. It was made by Franz Neumann, Suhl Germany in 1930. Brass - For the cases, had 2 options: reform them from 11mm Lebel or search the Internet for available obsolete brass. 28 3/8" Heavy Octagon Barrel with an EXCELLENT Bright Bore with STRONG RIFLING. He also chose the CPA and he give you all the specifics of his rifle. " Meffert- Suhl Hubertus Leichtmetallgewehre Dural 1938, Bernhard Merkel, Gewehr-Fabrik, Suhl-catalog, E. A. Theate & Co.-Belgium, Aug. Ahrendts-Hamburg, import & export. Yearly events began to take place where the citizenry gathered to compete with the crossbow and later with firarms. By the 15th Century Mans weaponry include stones, bow, crossbow and firearms. Both were 8.15x46R , however before we ever fired the correct stuff we actually used some light 32-40 ammo in the Martinni . has now started collecting tax for states that mandate i, Antique JOHN WURFFLEIN .415 Caliber Percussion TARGET Rifle Schuetzen Phila Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Precision Long Rifle Here we present an antique Wurfflein Half Stock Percussion Target Rifl, RELOADING DIES INCLUDED 176 BULLETS 180 BRASS CASES LOADING DATA  , "Look at how they massacred my boy!" That is a beautiful rifle. The following risque or cartoon targets were sometimes used in shooting galleries at public festivals like the Octoberfest. Save my name & email in this browser for the next time I comment. so much to do in order to be able to shoot it: A Schuetzen is a type of rifle used in European long-range competition. Schutzen-style single shot rifle, 26.5" barrel. It Is Better To Now Have Been A Has Been Than A Never Was Or A Wanna Be ". Interpretation- If you want to share the bed with me- you have to be a shooting champion first. It was a Ballard breech-loading rifle that chambered a cartridge. GUN COLLECTIONS WANTED FOR CAS, CONSIGNMENT USED VERY GOOD CONDITION MERKEL K-1S 7X57R SINGLE SHOT RIFLE -- 24" BARREL -- WALNUT STOCK WITH SWAROVSKI 3-10X42 HABICHT GERMAN #4 RECTICULE *** PRICENON NEGOT, Fascinating and rare sidelock gun in very shootable condition and presentable cosmetically. It's basically covered with hand carving and engraving. Last week my father gifted me some old family guns. Standard barrel sizes are #2 (1.00"), #2 1/2 (1.03"), #3 (1 1/16"), #4 (1 1/8"), and #5 (1 3/16") in part octagon or round. When I say I practice a lot I mean with a hand gun. This magnificent rifle was made by Friedrick Muchler in Neuenrade, a town in North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany, probably late 1800's to early 1900's. It is a style knowns as a Schuetzen rifle,. We're Sighting In on the tradition and history of a 200 year old firearm. Resulting bullet is shown in the middle, which measured the same 5.52mm. Still, for a student of firearms history, this represents an era that is a bit forgotten by most, yet important with regard to the development of modern marksmanship in a number of ways. There are manual and self-loading (automatic, semi-automatic) types of repeating rifles. These competitions were not confined solely to the European Continent but also took place in the United States in the late 19th and early 20th Century. German Schuetzen Rifle 8.15X46 caliber, 30" octagonal barrel with groove top for sights, rear tang sight and notched front sight. Please browse the showroom for our current selection of restored , pre-owned , refinished and manufactured firearms. 1 and Mossberg SSi are also allowed. All matching and original finish. Hopkins & Allen Schuetzen is a falling block system target rifle, styled after German-Swiss Schuetzen rifles. Find a diopter rear sight - Call Bill Loos! The Roman poet Virgil (70B.C. He was a very famous gunsmith of the time. I thought it was great! 1/2 Oct. barrel. File cut ramped front sight with wings, beautifully case colored removable trigger group falling block action, double set triggers wi, New in the box. Does your have the gunsmiths name on it. 10 Best ways to Make Money on Social Media and not waste time. This Rifle appears to have had a, Franz Langenhan Kleinkaliberbuchse Single Shot Rifle in .22LR. Buy a schuetzen online Now! Jorg Schilling on the left and Bill Loos on the right with a large caliber Vogelbchse, To read more about the Vogelbchsen and the competitions in modern times google- sebastianus-stammheim.de/ueberuns/historisch.html. #890A GERMAN BA TARGET RIFLE, 8:15 X 46 cal., 32" oct. Description: Model Schuetzen Condition Used- Fair Caliber Aprox. It is suitable for hunting medium to large game animals in Africa, Asia, Europe, and North America. Now I have to see if I can find some brass or form some for myself. What is Neues Gewehrpulver M/71 ??? CHARITY AUCTION: 1,200+ Troy Ounces of Gold Coins And Bullion from the Robert Amick Trust. It is a highly accurate and specialized target gun that uses a readily available 4MM cartridge. 2 Early Gun Makers & their Tools Vintage Gun Making Machinery The Guild System Austrian Gunmakers Miscellanious Advertisements for Austrian Makers German Gunmaking Centers Under the supervision of noted barrel rifler Harry Pope, this Stevens single-shot rifle was factory-fitted with a target barrel. This particular Schuetzen was made by Haenel Original Aydt and is chambered in 8.15 X 46R. ", BBF, yes there is some money invested in the rifle and the accessories. I have been researching it for a while. by Bill in Oregon Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:40 am, Post Item #34539 German Ideale System Martini Schuetzen Rifle. And the gun is just the beginning. 1871 Mauser, and as stated by "sauerfan" is a blackpowder. The Gewehr 88 was the first rifle adopted by Germany that used Smokeless powder. A vintage schuetzen chambered for an American cartridge (which are the most accurate calibers) costs $2,500 and up these days. Item Overview Description SERIAL NUMBER 3233 BARREL 24-3/4" CALIBER 4MM MANUFACTURED CIRCA 1900. 301/4 Octagon Barrel. by Old No7 Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:48 pm, Post The Germans, not having the necessary Schuetzens are heavy, 12 to 15 pounds, much of that weight in the barrel. by Old No7 Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:28 pm, Post Features double set triggers. Doing so will cause the petal crimped shells to open into the bore and the shot and wad column has to be squeezed through the tightened neck of the shell, spiking . 16 gauge 7.65r caliber. 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